The second episode of Podcast Nova Normal, launched on January 13, talks about the Amazon region and the research that recently indicated how the forest is rapidly approaching its inflection point – in other words, when it starts to fail to produce sufficient rain to sustain itself. Ana Toni, the executive director of the Institute for Climate and Society (iCS), and Clarissa Gandour, experts in public policies of conservation from the Climate Policy Initiative (CPI), were the guests of Manoela Miklos and talked about the savannization and deforestation in the region. The loss of the forest, says the podcast, will accelerate climate change and increase events such as droughts and storms. Listen to the entire podcast. It is only 39 minutes long.

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